Comments on: MoralMaster 2.0 Morality Monitor http://non-theist.com/moralmaster-20-morality-monitor/ atheist blog Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:05:52 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: joe the plumber http://non-theist.com/moralmaster-20-morality-monitor/comment-page-1/#comment-161 joe the plumber Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:35:58 +0000 http://non-theist.com/?p=263#comment-161 It's a funny vid, but not likely to win any wars. The best you can do is make lazy christians realize that they don't really understand what they believe and make atheists who don't understand christianity think that it's just that simple. What meade said about the strawman is partially true, and 'nontheist' covered inerrancy. So this video doesn't accurately describe the views of christians who hold an infallible view of the bible (as opposed to inerrant) and that jesus' morality is a substitute for their own. I don't know how someone with an inerrant view of the bible would respond to this as I've never really considered this to be a viable branch of christianity...but I'd like to hear them try muahaha It’s a funny vid, but not likely to win any wars. The best you can do is make lazy christians realize that they don’t really understand what they believe and make atheists who don’t understand christianity think that it’s just that simple. What meade said about the strawman is partially true, and ‘nontheist’ covered inerrancy. So this video doesn’t accurately describe the views of christians who hold an infallible view of the bible (as opposed to inerrant) and that jesus’ morality is a substitute for their own.

I don’t know how someone with an inerrant view of the bible would respond to this as I’ve never really considered this to be a viable branch of christianity…but I’d like to hear them try muahaha

]]> By: nontheist http://non-theist.com/moralmaster-20-morality-monitor/comment-page-1/#comment-144 nontheist Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:33:48 +0000 http://non-theist.com/?p=263#comment-144 Meade, I assume you hold to the belief that either: 1) religious texts were written and directed by mere mortals 2) the deity of choice wrote or guided the writing in a manner the people of the time would understand, including the moral maturity of the time This video only argues against the position of biblical inerrancy. If you believe it is inerrant and are a literalist, this is not a straw man argument at all. It points out what the scripture says. I have yet to find an argument from biblical literalism and inerrancy that refutes its own scripture while maintaining any semblance of intellectual honesty. If your stated convictions are thus, only those branded as insane have the courage of those convictions today. Meade, I assume you hold to the belief that either:

1) religious texts were written and directed by mere mortals
2) the deity of choice wrote or guided the writing in a manner the people of the time would understand, including the moral maturity of the time

This video only argues against the position of biblical inerrancy. If you believe it is inerrant and are a literalist, this is not a straw man argument at all. It points out what the scripture says.

I have yet to find an argument from biblical literalism and inerrancy that refutes its own scripture while maintaining any semblance of intellectual honesty. If your stated convictions are thus, only those branded as insane have the courage of those convictions today.

]]> By: Meade http://non-theist.com/moralmaster-20-morality-monitor/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Meade Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:47:36 +0000 http://non-theist.com/?p=263#comment-138 This video is a strawman. The assumed common sense morals our society holds today will look just as ridiculous 100 years from now as this looks to us. Just think of how the average person saw women or minorities 150 years ago in the US. You won't find Christians advocating the stoning of homosexuals or the killing of rebellious teenagers today which is why this is a strawman. Christian theology for 2000 years has recognized that there is a difference between an ancient nation theocracy and the church which is made up of all nations. This video is a strawman. The assumed common sense morals our society holds today will look just as ridiculous 100 years from now as this looks to us. Just think of how the average person saw women or minorities 150 years ago in the US.

You won’t find Christians advocating the stoning of homosexuals or the killing of rebellious teenagers today which is why this is a strawman. Christian theology for 2000 years has recognized that there is a difference between an ancient nation theocracy and the church which is made up of all nations.

]]> By: atheistik http://non-theist.com/moralmaster-20-morality-monitor/comment-page-1/#comment-118 atheistik Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:02:46 +0000 http://non-theist.com/?p=263#comment-118 gregorylent, First, this video is a joke. Funny, ha ha stuff. "can you see the flow to global openness happening? can you participate in the opening into higher mind that is happening now?" -can you be a little more vague? "just being a clever atheist is just the bottom rung on the ladder of human evolution …" -ouch I'd be interested in your comments regarding specific things I've written on this site since I didn't produce this video or make any particular statement in this post. gregorylent,

First, this video is a joke. Funny, ha ha stuff.

“can you see the flow to global openness happening? can you participate in the opening into higher mind that is happening now?”

-can you be a little more vague?

“just being a clever atheist is just the bottom rung on the ladder of human evolution …”

-ouch

I’d be interested in your comments regarding specific things I’ve written on this site since I didn’t produce this video or make any particular statement in this post.

]]> By: gregorylent http://non-theist.com/moralmaster-20-morality-monitor/comment-page-1/#comment-115 gregorylent Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:40:45 +0000 http://non-theist.com/?p=263#comment-115 boring .. i think i don't need your worldview, too narrow ... if you are defining yourself by some other set of beliefs, what are you offering that is new? why bother to read you? morality is hardwired, in the nature and structure of consciousness ... cultures and societies always modify this, but so what? can you see the flow to global openness happening? can you participate in the opening into higher mind that is happening now? just being a clever atheist is just the bottom rung on the ladder of human evolution ... i am just challenging your pov ... to me it seems narrow, reactionary, everything you think you oppose, you are .. so, can you upgrade the octave? raise the frequency of your efforts? because you do care, and are passionate, just very limited ... spend a year going around the world, or two, maybe because you do have something to contribute, you just got fixated on an easy target, and it is beneath you. enjoy, gregory lent boring .. i think i don’t need your worldview, too narrow … if you are defining yourself by some other set of beliefs, what are you offering that is new? why bother to read you?

morality is hardwired, in the nature and structure of consciousness … cultures and societies always modify this, but so what? can you see the flow to global openness happening? can you participate in the opening into higher mind that is happening now?

just being a clever atheist is just the bottom rung on the ladder of human evolution …

i am just challenging your pov … to me it seems narrow, reactionary, everything you think you oppose, you are ..

so, can you upgrade the octave? raise the frequency of your efforts?

because you do care, and are passionate, just very limited … spend a year going around the world, or two, maybe

because you do have something to contribute, you just got fixated on an easy target, and it is beneath you.

enjoy, gregory lent

]]> By: Asylum Seeker http://non-theist.com/moralmaster-20-morality-monitor/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Asylum Seeker Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:29:06 +0000 http://non-theist.com/?p=263#comment-98 Man...that was some good stuff. Background music kind of brought back memories of Step-Aerobic videos, though. Man…that was some good stuff. Background music kind of brought back memories of Step-Aerobic videos, though.

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